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Re: Random shop pictures

Post by Bill DeShivs » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:48 am

Another wanted Grandpa's ShurSnap restored
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Re: Random shop pictures

Post by Bill DeShivs » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:05 am

I don't do many "mangles" anymore, but when I do, I try to make them different.
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Re: Random shop pictures

Post by thom » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:07 pm

Bill, I really like that 11 1/2" in dark horn. Why don't you produce them like your smaller, 8"? I would love to own one.
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Re: Random shop pictures

Post by Bill DeShivs » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:25 pm

Thom,
The big Leverletto looks good on paper, but it's huge in hand. It feels like one of the 15" stilettos.
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Re: Random shop pictures

Post by TRYKER » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:09 pm

LUV THE MEDICI !!!
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Re: Random shop pictures

Post by Maltese flatguard » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:26 am

Bill DeShivs wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:55 am
It was original. Just to keep ham-handed Americans from bending the backspring too far.
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I'm being harassed by Orangboy via private email, telling me that no stilettos were made with the pin through the top guards. I can assure you that some were, as I have seen them and worked on them. The one in the picture was originally made that way.
:idea:
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Re: Random shop pictures

Post by Maltese flatguard » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:28 am

Bill DeShivs wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:55 am
It was original. Just to keep ham-handed Americans from bending the backspring too far.
Edit:
I'm being harassed by Orangboy via private email, telling me that no stilettos were made with the pin through the top guards. I can assure you that some were, as I have seen them and worked on them. The one in the picture was originally made that way.
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Re: Random shop pictures

Post by Bill DeShivs » Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:23 am

That one wasn't originally done that way.
The ones that were, had a nickel silver pin, finished flush with the outside of the guard.
I was mistaken, but thank you for showing another example of my shop work.
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Re: Random shop pictures

Post by Maltese flatguard » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:57 pm

Can we see pictures of all these others you have worked on that have a pin going through the guards?

To be clear, you’re saying the Italian stilettos made between the late 1800s and about 1947 had a nickel silver pin between the guards for 2 reasons: to stop the backspring from over opening and also for ham handed Americans so they don’t push the backspring too far?

I just don’t want any confusion here. There once was a collector who liked to say “no information is better than wrong information.” So I just want there to be no confusion here.

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Re: Random shop pictures

Post by Maltese flatguard » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:58 pm

Bill DeShivs wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:23 am
That one wasn't originally done that way.
The ones that were, had a nickel silver pin, finished flush with the outside of the guard.
I was mistaken, but thank you for showing another example of my shop work.
Are you confusing them with those 1960s Argentina stilettos? Those had a pin in them.
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Re: Random shop pictures

Post by Bill DeShivs » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:13 pm

To be clear- I don't take pictures of most of my work. But thank you for posting another picture of one of my repairs.

My job is not that of a researcher. I'm a cutler. I see literally thousands of knives. I'm not cataloging them.
I'm saying that I have seen Italian stilettos made with a pin through the top guards. I believe they were flat guards, but I don't remember.

Now- you're on thin ice here, so be very careful. It has been peaceful for the last couple of weeks.
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Re: Random shop pictures

Post by Maltese flatguard » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:29 pm

Bill DeShivs wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:13 pm
To be clear- I don't take pictures of most of my work. But thank you for posting another picture of one of my repairs.

My job is not that of a researcher. I'm a cutler. I see literally thousands of knives. I'm not cataloging them.
I'm saying that I have seen Italian stilettos made with a pin through the top guards. I believe they were flat guards, but I don't remember.

Now- you're on thin ice here, so be very careful. It has been peaceful for the last couple of weeks.
I didn’t post another picture of your work. The Argentina knife you didn’t restore, BTW, it was done by a collector who wanted to give it a shot to see how easy or hard it was. It was his first ever attempt and the results must be amazing if you thought it was your work.

Not one person I talked to nor myself have seen Italians stilettos made with a pin through the guard for the reasons you mentioned or at all.

And several collectors are pissed you posted pictures of their knives without permission.

I’m here to be nice but if people post really wrong info it’s going to get questioned
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Re: Random shop pictures

Post by Maltese flatguard » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:57 pm

By saying Italian stilettos were made that way really
completely changes the history of the construction of these knives. Sure would be great to have some documentarian of this or some pictures or even first hand knowledge. This changes everything...

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Re: Random shop pictures

Post by Bill DeShivs » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:51 am

Sometimes I get strange requests.
This gentleman wanted all the blades removed from an Italian lobster pattern knife, except the cuticle cutter.
I came up with a better idea, and made a new handle/spring for the cuticle cutter.
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Re: Random shop pictures

Post by Bill DeShivs » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:22 am

Here's a fully forged Italian stiletto.
Liners, bolsters, and pivot all forged from one piece of stainless.
Blade, button, backspring, and kickspring are all stainless, too.
The coil spring under the button is original to the knife.
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