Bargeon 860

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Bargeon 860

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Hi again Bill!

I am waiting for an all stainless handle Bargeon (7 /1/2") to be delivered to me.

I bought this on a impluse (like always .. hummmm ) before I did any research on it. Later, I surfed thorough several forums, but really did not find out much other than the company has stopped making switchblades and that the general consensus seemed to be that they were rather "flimsey".

I was surprised to find that in one forum you said you liked them! You did not expand your short statement. I have tried to refind your posting so that I could make direct reference to it, but I cannot. I am sure I saw it.

Would you mind commenting on the Bargeon? Do you like them because of their relatively low prices, reliability, design, quality or what?

I and I am sure many others would value your expanded opinion.

Thanks so much,

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I like Bargeon knives. The blades are well-ground, the shape of the knives is cool, and they are generally well-made.
The cheesy plastic handles on some models are typically French, and many times the knives have banana blades (easily fixed by filing the blade tang.)
Bargeons are less common than typical Italian knives.
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Re: Bargeon 860

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Bill ... many thanks. Looks like I may have picked a good one!!


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Re: Bargeon 860

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The mailman just dropped off the 860. I am more than pleased. Even the safety is nice and tight, but that will free up more over time. I think it might have a touch of the "banana" blade.

WElllllll .... i ordered the Bargeon 864 this morning. The pic looks pretty beefy with a 9 1/2 inch overall length. It has the cheesy plastic handle that Bill talked about. Seems sort of a shame. :( However, perhaps the handle could be replaced with a nice stag or bone? Bill, what do you think??? :D Would it be worthwhile doing?

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It can be done, but I don't think it's worth it.
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Re: Bargeon 860

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Bill DeShivs wrote: (easily fixed by filing the blade tang.)
Some look like they tilt slightly to the left when open like the one in the pic below.

Do you file at the right-bottom of the tang to correct that?

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Re: Bargeon 860

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Hi guys ,,,i think you would file the tang where it strikes the backspring no? one stroke , check , another stroke check ,etc. ive had luck doing this but ya better wait till Bill chimes in :wink:
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Niceguy is correct.
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Re: Bargeon 860

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Got it, thank you!

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Re: Bargeon 860

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Leave it to me to be confused by the obvious....... :oops: :oops:

But .......... it looks like this "adjustment" can be made without disassembling the knife. Just open the blade half way or so and hopefully find a very thin file that will not rub against the bolsters. Nes pas? (my misspelled french)

Do I hear someone laughing ....... :roll:


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Re: Bargeon 860

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OleRod wrote:
Just open the blade half way or so and hopefully find a very thin file that will not rub against the bolsters.
That's how I understand it too, is that correct?
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Correct.
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Re: Bargeon 860

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What detail is in the tang to lock the blade in place when open? Is it another square hole or slot like the Leverletto has?
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The small models use a slot like the Leverletto. The larger Bargeons use a lockback mechanism. You have to be very careful fitting the lockback models, as you have very little fitting leeway.
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Re: Bargeon 860

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Bill DeShivs wrote:The small models use a slot like the Leverletto. The larger Bargeons use a lockback mechanism. You have to be very careful fitting the lockback models, as you have very little fitting leeway.
Thank you, that gives me some confidence towards my first attempted repair.

I will start a new thread when I receive my non-locking in open position Bargeon 7 1/2" I won last night.

I am hoping I can rectify it with a needle file without tearing it down.

Tom
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