Rememberance

[Dr. Smooth]

Check out Stu's "Do You Remember" under "Things that grind my Gears' on his sales website...
Since I've already dated myself I'll tell ya that I used to strap 20 ga betsy to my handlebars and pedal
a half mile to hunt birds a couple times a week...mostly on school days...wasn't late too much and was forgiven
when I fessed up on where I been...Do you think my Youngster would get two blocks with Betsy on the bars...
You can not utter or include in essays the word "pistol" without earning a two week shift on the couch...
I often wonder how we got to where we are...was all pretty simple back in the day...If ya fu**ed up ya paid
for it...didn't need 3 handholders and 2 councilors...here's some more dumb sh*t...I bought a plinker off the
rack at a sports store a couple weeks ago...just yesterday I got a letter from the firearms centre that says
it's OK for me to have it...I guess they figgered that any daring-do I had in mind could wait...Too bad we have to
have so many political types trying to make all my good habits bad and deep six my bad ones...Oh well...maybe
Neil was right...we got a kinder, gentler machine gun hand...by the way...one of the greatest rock tunes ever...
Any one else got a gripe about what was once OK and is less than tolerated these days???

[Vagrant]

Any one else got a gripe about what was once OK and is less than tolerated these days???

How could ANYONE have a prolem now the leftists have given us a "perfect society"

[tr4252]

Well, this is one hell of, as they say, a coincidence.

Today, around 3:30, I was in my office, slaving away at the almighty computer, when my supervisor popped in. He told me that they'd just fired a guy who'd been with the company for a long time. I wasn't told the reason. I was instructed that if I saw him on the premesis, I was to get in touch with management, or call the police. I was also told that the doors would be kept locked for the next few days. Other people have been escorted out the door in the past; this is the first time I've heard of such measures being taken. The thing about this particular guy is, he's a hunter and a firearms owner. I suspect that there is a fear, however unlikely, that he might come back with the intent to hurt somebody.

At first I thought this was a form of prejudice, an overreaction. Considering it, in view of the numerous cases where people actually have committed mass assaults in recent years, I felt that even a remote possibility is too great a risk. If, God forbid, the worst were to happen, tomorrow or the next day, it'd be pretty damned hard to explain why we left ourselves vulnerable.

I don't so much blame the people who are turning this world into a chicken shit society as I do the ass holes who have given them so many excuses to overreact. It's the Columbine type nutjobs who've messed things up for the rest of us.

For the record, I'm a gun owner and a pro gun rights kind of guy. And yes, I too miss the good old days. And no, I won't be going to work armed tomorrow.

Tom

[Vanagas]

I could right a book about things I miss doing. Believe it or not high on the list is drinking and driving. Now think of the meaning of those words, not the shit the media beats into your head. I did not say drunken driving. Anybody who gets shitfaced and causes harm deserves whatever they get. I just miss being able to jump into the car on a Sat afternoon to go to the hardware or something and taking my beer along. On vacations I'd drink beer on the way there too. Maybe it's just me but I have a high tolerance for the stuff. Just seems wrong that I can get a ticket for an open container even if I'm only having one. Oh yeah .08 is total bullshit too. For my size that is THREE 12 ouncers. Four and I'm illegal. Yet it takes 8-12 before I have any trouble doing anything. Driving ain't rocket science. If you can drive sober I think you can prob drive just fine with a 6 pack under your belt. .15-.20 seems more realistic. I've actually drank close to 40 MUGS at a sitting before. Sure I was three sheets to the wind, but I wasn't driving. I'll bet my bac musta been at least .50.

FWIW lots of hunters out where I live and you see people walking around carrying guns and nobody thinks anything of it. Hick towns, gotta luv em.

[Tom19176]

I carried a 11" horn handled stiletto from age 12 till 19 and was never brothered in NYC !! I am 48 now, and my 15 son has me warning him all the time about not carrying a small knife until he is 16, and then it must not be able to flick open ( a Gravity knife in NY). He already had his best friend have a knife taken off him by an officer, because the 3" blade liner lock could flick open. The kid had one of the PBA cards on him I gave him and the officer told him that was the only reason he wasn't arrested......go figure....

[JerrBear]

I carried a 11" horn handled stiletto from age 12 till 19 and was never brothered in NYC !!

Mr. Tom,

That's account of you were in NYC - They only "brother" you iff'n you be in Philadelphia...

The kid had one of the PBA cards on him I gave him

Whazza "PBA card?"

[--J]

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[Tom19176]

PBA=Police Benevloant Assoc-the "union" for patrolman. Family and close friends get the cards from officers....you get the idea...

[JerrBear]

PBA=Police Benevloant Assoc

Thanks!

[Dr. Smooth]

We can still do most of the things we used to...just hafta be a bit smarter about it...
can't do em where we used to anymore...I recently bought an abandoned farm property in central Sask...
I stay here for a week or so every now and then...no one bugs me here and likewise...great neighbors at a distance...
Ya just have to stay out of the sight of those who wish they were you but their lifestyles won't let them...
Until they figger it out, I'll just keep comin back here...

ps...got a guardian in stag on the way...can't wait...

Doc

[Vanagas]

We can still do most of the things we used to...just hafta be a bit smarter about it...
can't do em where we used to anymore...I recently bought an abandoned farm property in central Sask...
I stay here for a week or so every now and then...no one bugs me here and likewise...great neighbors at a distance...
Ya just have to stay out of the sight of those who wish they were you but their lifestyles won't let them...
Until they figger it out, I'll just keep comin back here...

ps...got a guardian in stag on the way...can't wait...

Doc

That makes a lotta sense actually. I've always suspected that all the people who live their lives to the letter of the law are jealous of those of us who choose to enjoy life and take whatever consequences that may well bring.

[tr4252]

I think it's a question of how you watch your image. The above post I wrote would make a fine policy statement if I were asked about my opinion at work (it expresses my true feelings in a way even a company exec could understand). On the other hand, we had a guy in the shop several years ago who said some members of management should be wasted, and implied that he might have a gun in his locker. He was chaufered away in a police car, never to be seen again.

Who has the greater amount of options? I rest my case.

I have a nice collection of firearms, and act in a responsible way. I think it is to our advantage, whether we collect switchblades, guns, collectable thermonuclear devices, or whatever, to understand what motivates the sissy (I already know I can't use the word I had in mind, because I did once and Teddy edited my post) um....pussies, and not rub their excessively sensitive and totally uninformed hides the wrong way. God knows, EVERY way is the wrong one with these people, but I think you get what I mean.

We're dealing with people to whom the advice "You know the freedom you have, to fuck up my life and everybody elses? Case in point: I defended that freedom of yours, with guns and other assorted weapons! Someday you should do the same, if you have the balls". falls on deaf ears. If they can't understand that, they can't understand anything. These people we're dealing with think you can create a utopian society sitting at a computer and wishing it so. If Shakespear were alive today, he'd no doubt write a tragicomedy about a man who'd thwarted a mass murder, only to be arrested for carrying a Swiss Army knife (a small one).

Diatribe ends.....

Tom

[El Gringo]

Its gettin more 'Orwellian' aint it. WAR IS PEACE.. FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.. IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.. Well brother I see it this way. Yep, guilty as charged...but not in my book. I dont pay no mind. Yep even drive after a couple beers(not drunk). Even had an auto knife in my posession a few times to show buddies at my club. Hell, I may have been packin heat somewhere where it was 'vorboden'! Hummmm seems to be my life. "Your Papers Please!"

[Milu]

My 26 year old secretary who has been with me for three months just got a look in at one of the locked cabinets in the office. It has about 50-60 non pc knives and a couple of pistols in it.

Anyone care to guess at her reaction

[Tom19176]

I do believe that the change towards weapons possession has come from the many changes in our society as awhole. The late 1960s to present have seen numerous bans and restrictions on all types of weapons, due mostly to the misuse of them by certain factions of our society. From the mid 60s on the drug use surge caused violence never seen in this county. The murder rate in NYC went from less than 100 per year in the 1950s to 2300 per year in the early 1990s. In the 50s, you could still buy guns and switchblades in NYC, but it seems no one used them illegally as they did in the years that followed when they were less easy to buy legally. I will tell you the truth of what I saw first hand in law enforcement in NYC. We went from a soicety were the murder victims were mostly involved in crime themselves, or where killed by family members/friends as the result of disputes. Then entered the drugs of the 60s along with the South American drug code of violence and in the 80s the West Indian drug culture. The organized crime of the Italians and Irish confined their violence to members of their crime world, but these two new groups condsidered everyone a potential victim of their violent acts. The murder victims were mostly still drug users/ sellers, but the need to buy drug caused users to commit numerous more crimes that resulted in violence to the public at large, and the disputes among dealers ended up in shooting that caused many innocent persons be killed by guys who let loose 20 rounds at one target. When the muder rate hit the 2300 a year high, Rudy G won office as Mayor, and helped get things under control, however, once you start that type of strict handed law enforcement it is very hard to go back. That to me is the issue today. We now have many in law enforcement who believe zero tolerence is the only correct way to administer the law. Society has blamed "weapons" for the things that "bad people" do.