More Christmas to myself

Trey45 · Post by **Trey45** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:04 pm

Yes... I realize this is a knife forum, not a gun forum, but I feel certain someone here may appreciate this rifle. It's a Bushmaster M17S Bullpup, chambered in .223 (or 5.56 for you sticklers for military nomenclature) Shown here with a Bushnell 4x12 zero'd in at 300 feet. Also shown is an aftermarket 30 round magazine, the rifle comes with a 10 round mag with the "new" army green follower, the 30 rnd mag I refit with new spring and "new" army green follower as well. very VERY accurate rifle, fun to shoot and the ammo is of course really easy to come by and really cheap to shoot.21.5 inch barrel in a 30 inch rifle!! My understanding is Bushmaster stopped making these last year as well as their .308 offering in the AR15 package. Don't ask what it cost

butch · Post by **butch** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:35 pm

Nice toy!

I want one.

Vagrant · Post by **Vagrant** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:33 am

I love Bullpups, Carbines, and "short iron" in general. I'm not the world's biggest fan of the 5.56 !

Trey45 · Post by **Trey45** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:48 am

I agree with you 100% there Vagrant, I love carbines and short guns too, I also wasn't a huge fan of the .223 cartridge either, until I spent a little time behind the trigger of this one. It has NONE of the inherent troubles the AR15 framed .223's do, the gas operating system is completely closed so no need for spending hours with picks and pipe cleaners after shooting, the entire gas system is maintenance free.Agreed tho, the common .223 is anemic when it comes to taking down big game, nothing like a good ole 30-06 or a .308, but for an afternoon of long range plinking, I dont think one could go wrong, surplus ammo costs about 1.5 cents a round, so it's almost as cheap to shoot as a .22. Even with the assault weapons ban lifted, this is still the only American made Bullpup on the civilian market(New production).

Vagrant · Post by **Vagrant** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:19 am

My only 5.56 [Bushmaster Pistol] too short to use the back of the reciever as a stock you let rest against your forearm to steady it.

Trey45 · Post by **Trey45** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:32 am

Holy Toledo Vagrant !! That is even shorter than mine! I had no idea until just now that Bushmaster even had a bullpup styled weapon prior to the M17S. How old is that one? Gotta love those surplus 30 rounders. I think I would find yours particularly hard to shoot not being able to shoulder it.My next question is, where is the charging handle? On mine it's the back of the carry handle, you pull it back to charge it, it doesnt cycle with each round, all that is taken care of internally.

Vagrant · Post by **Vagrant** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:03 am

Trey45 wrote:Holy Toledo Vagrant !! That is even shorter than mine! I had no idea until just now that Bushmaster even had a bullpup styled weapon prior to the M17S. How old is that one? Gotta love those surplus 30 rounders. I think I would find yours particularly hard to shoot not being able to shoulder it.My next question is, where is the charging handle? On mine it's the back of the carry handle, you pull it back to charge it, it doesnt cycle with each round, all that is taken care of internally.

Charging knob is on the top [like a Thompson SMG] above the grip.
They only made a few back in the '70s. Kalashnikov type gas operated NOT the M-16 direct gas impingement. M-16 type grip/trigger assembly.
Lots of fun but not much good for anything other then "walking" rounds onto tin cans when you're in a sandpit