Some K-12s

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frank2104
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Some K-12s

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Carried Westbury sales stuff in high school. The white one is a slip joint and the one on the left says stainless steel Japan the right one is stamped k12.i used to find them at shows in coffee can piles but now they have gotten popular. Thanks for looking.
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Re: Some K-12s

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FRANK, jerryk just joined the forum, he has a big k12 collection.
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Re: Some K-12s

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Nice bunch sir, thanks for the pics...
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Thanks tazman
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Re: Some K-12s

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K12s were my favorite. . . .
At least the very sexy advertisement was. . .
It was deceptive. . . the blade was drawn too long. . . .
If you "checked it" like a draftsman. . . you saw the geometry was not true.
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adverts
the smaller ad has a disclaimer, not for sale to kids. . .
and the cost went up. . .
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The knife was not always the same. . .
The blade actually changed, the tang stamp and the blade grind.
the way the handle scale was pinned could be different.
I don't recall which was released first,
but the pakistan version was last.

I thought the slip joint non-locking folder had the nicest grind.
at least it was the closest to the deceptive advertising drawing.
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I'm still looking for a scan of the advertisement for this bayonet version.

The bayonet point was never called a K12-AL. . .
But some had the same body, with the bayonet blade.

The slip-joint non-locking version had two different bodies.
The tail pin changed , one was "on-center"
and some of the bodies did not have the pronounced "Step"
ground into the liner profile for the folding guard relief.
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I recently got out my "K12-AL Box" to inspect my collection. . . .
An unknown friend "gifted" to me a large 12''+ jigged bone swing guard.
(he signed the shipping box " Ed Burns . . 77 Sunset Strip, L.A. California" )
( a reference to a 50's TV show '"leather jacket character" who combed his hair a lot.)

So I had to compare it to the collection.
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A - Black Clip point Slip joint folder.
B - Best mint example - original owner
C - Best mint example - original owner
D - Favorite Flicker. ( see explanation of custom mangle )
E - Bayonet blade lockback
F - O.M.O.R. - 8.75 inch real horn scales with replacement cross guards.
G - Pakistan Knife with solid Aluminum Bolsters and Aluminum Liners
H - K13 - 9.125 inch Westbury Lockback Knife
J - K61 - 11 inch Westbury Lockback Knife
K - 13 inch Fabico

"B" and "C" . . . I often find the best examples of a knife, and built a "seat" inside a candy box
and under the lid either place an advertisement, of a drawing and description . . .
What you see are my best taxidermic examples in the progress of being "mounted."

Explanation of "D" . . . .
I ruined a lot of knives. . . I'm a mangler. . . .way back to about 1965.
I made gravity flick knives out of everything, because Switchblades were hard to find.
I learned to polish blade heels, solder guards so they swung together.
This knife doesn't really lock open solid. . . but it makes a great movie prop.
I can get it to open one handed, by a little pressure on the lock button, and a gravity inertia wrist flick.
If you look close, the swing guard pin has a big drop of solder like a ball. Not sloppy at all.
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I got really good at repairing worm holes.
The O.M.O.R. . . . knife "F" in the above photo, came like this in the mail.
No guard. . .over-ground blade. . . .bug bites.
I layer super glue really thin, and dry brush paints really thin, layer by layer,
until I get a nice translucent repair that is more or less color matched.
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Shown at the top is a 13 inch AGA modern flatguard for scale. . .
Second is the Fabico. . . .
I have other knives that are NOT K12-ALs . . . . .
Sheepfoot handles, both pick-bone and horn. . . . . . OMARs. . . . .a CSC Canal Street Cutlery
and a P.I.C. gravity flick knife with bolster/toggle button.

Somewhere I have "Flintstone / Frankenstein" giant faked up Automatic K12-ALs
One is cobbled up lever action made from a 12 inch italian lockback
Another is a 16 inch lever action made from a "Pakistan Boar knife" (long blade folds into short handle)
I can't seem to find a photo. and the knives are boxed up real good. . .
I'll post the images later.

The bottom toggle knife is a story unto itself. . . .
It should be in Wikipedia under "gravity knife". . .You can push the button and flick it with inertia.
I rebuilt it with copper wire for pins, in case some expect wants to REALLY restore it.
The copper pins will come out really easy.
I have a friend who has the fixed bolster version. . . the only one I've ever seen. . . .A Unicorn.
Somewhere I have a flatbed scanner image of it. . . on a disk somewhere.
I had a lot of stuff on Photobucket . . .but lost it all. . . .
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Re: Some K-12s

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NOT MY KNIVES . . . . .IMAGES SAVED FOR REFERENCE ONLY

Ian Bevens "Killbucket" had a bunch of K12s . . . .
He had a Yellow one. . . . .
I had a red handled one.
I don't know how many colors they came in.

Killbucket's yellow knife, and his collection
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Tom19176 has a cool collection that included a rare bird.
There is one knife with a oddball profile... . . I wish he would post the tang stamp photo.

Bottom Row . . .5th from the right. . .a giant K12 with the sheepfoot bottom bolster.

I have copies of the knives on either side, the K13, and the K61,. . . . . but not the mystery knife between.
Notice Tom also has the 7 inch "Panther Knife". . . . .
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Notice in Tom's collection. . . in the above photo, 2nd knife bottom row. . . a Panther Knife.
The advertisement also cheated up the blade size too large to fold closed. .
in order to make the advertisement sexy. . .
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