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Vintage Swinguards

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Thanks to Thom ("Thanks Thom") for introducing me to someone that just happened to have a 6.25" swinger to add to my few vintage set (not an easy find). Eventually, I'll find the right 11" to add. Here's 6.25"- 7"- 7"- 8"- 9" and 9"...

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Nice set JV. Glad it finally worked out for you. Patients young Luke.
I see they all have 2 pins on bottom bolster. Why???
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thom wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:29 am I see they all have 2 pins on bottom bolster. Why???
If they only had one pin, the lock would just push the spring out of place when you press on it. Think of it like putting a framed pic on the wall with one nail on the top right and one nail on the top left. Now imagine what happens if you take one nail out.

While some swingers or lockbacks, like Kissing Cranes or Chinese AKC knockoffs) appear to only have one pin they actually have a second pin that is hidden by the bolster.
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They are all great but the little one is a gem!
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JulesVane,

Nice set! Thanks for posting. The horn on your 7 is really nice. I have a 7 with gorgeous light horn and have seen others in that size with great horn. Seems they allocated some beautiful horn for the sevens.

I have a couple of really nice 11s, one in stag, one in nice dark horn. Send me a pm if you might have interest in one.

Jim
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Great set ! I assume no 11" yet?
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way to go Chris, I like them all.
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Very nice collection of older swinguards, JV. It's the older ones that are hard to come by, especially when they're small and scaled in stag. Most excellent.
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Thanks for the kind words guys!
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jim d, wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:00 am JulesVane,

Nice set! Thanks for posting. The horn on your 7 is really nice. I have a 7 with gorgeous light horn and have seen others in that size with great horn. Seems they allocated some beautiful horn for the sevens.

I have a couple of really nice 11s, one in stag, one in nice dark horn. Send me a pm if you might have interest in one.

Jim
Hi Jim! Yes, I'm certainly interested in finding a vintage 11" for this set. Thanks! PM incoming...
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Question: Does anyone know of the years of production gap in the Italian swinguards? Seems they were first produced such as these in the 1960's with flat grind blades, "D" stamped, NS hardware. But, when were swingers re-introduced? I've never heard of 1970's or '80's swingers (that I'm aware of). Was it very late 1990's/2000 that Frank Beltrame started producing 11" swinguards again with different grinds such as bayo and dagger, no "D" cutouts and SS hardware? What was happening with production of them between 1968 (or so) and the year 2000?
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JulesVane wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:38 pm Question: Does anyone know of the years of production gap in the Italian swinguards? Seems they were first produced such as these in the 1960's with flat grind blades, "D" stamped, NS hardware. But, when were swingers re-introduced? I've never heard of 1970's or '80's swingers (that I'm aware of). Was it very late 1990's/2000 that Frank Beltrame started producing 11" swinguards again with different grinds such as bayo and dagger, no "D" cutouts and SS hardware? What was happening with production of them between 1968 (or so) and the year 2000?
Hey JV, not sure this helps answer your question as I'm still learning something new everyday. Attached are pics of 3 swinguards. The 2 that are together, I bought from a knife salesman from the Northeast who sold knives in the 70's - 90's. These knives have front tang stamped AKC. But these are not the AKC stamps used today. Best I can determine these are older and may be the first stamps AKC used. The green horn w/bayonet blade has NS bolsters & button. The imitation ivory w/dagger blade has SS bolsters & NS button. Both are from the 80's according to the salesperson but can't verify it's true. The 3rd knife came from an auction that stated the knife was from the 70's. This swinguard has thick stag scales with NS bolsters. Very similar to the Puma "Medici" knives. This may have been imported to the German market but is Italian made. Listed in Zinser's "Switchblades of Italy" p96.There is no front tang stamp. The rear tang stamp has an oval over ROSTFREI. Also, this swinguard has a double spring system which is somewhat unique to these type knives. As I also have another similar knife w/out the swinguard with the double spring. If anyone has additional info on these knives please let me know.
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Thanks Chris, but AKC didn’t exist until approximately 2001, which came out with the 9” swinguards after Frank B came out with his 11”.
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I guess it’s hard to trust anyone these days.
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Chris51P wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:31 pm I guess it’s hard to trust anyone these days.
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