Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano?

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Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano?

Post by mykniveSSuck82 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:52 pm

Just got a new knife. Picked it up for fairly cheap but I’ve never seen one that just says Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano? Lol can anyone tell me anything about the lack of Milano stamp on the blade... did they run out of room ?

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Re: Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano?

Post by JulesVane » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:00 am

lol...That IS interesting. JimBrown257 ought to chime in on this one eventually. He knows the Rizzutos inside and out (literally).
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Re: Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano?

Post by JimBrown257 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:45 am

I have seen a few with the Rizzuto Estiletto but no Milano stamp. That might be the only 9" one I've seen with just the RE stamp. The others were all either 11" or 8" (which is the most rare size).

There is a wide variety of stamps on those. Some stay Rissuto or Missuto. Some stay Stiletto Italiano. The most common of the rare variations is Estileto Milano Rizzuto (instead of Rizzuto Estiletto Milano). The most rare of the rare variations, based on what I have seen, is Stainless Steel across the blade with no stamp on the tang. I've only seen one of those.

I actually started a thread on SD trying to compile as many Rizzuto variations as I could. I got a lot of pics but the thread eventually got buried and forgotten about.

And that one in the OP is one of the more sturdy ones (compared to the other Rizzutos, I mean). It has a steel rocker and the better scales that aren't so prone to warping. Also, on those ones, it seems like the bolsters were done with more care because they aren't broken off the solder as much. Does it have the square sear? If you open the blade half way, you can see the sear hole. Is it square or round?

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Re: Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano?

Post by mykniveSSuck82 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:59 am

It is the round version... it’s in pretty good condition considering... just some rubbing on the blade from the swinguard opening and closing. Works like a champ too, snaps open quickly!
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Re: Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano?

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Re: Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano?

Post by mykniveSSuck82 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:14 am

Any chance of dating the knife for me? Store I bought it from said it’s from the 60’s any truth in that? This is my first Rizzuto I’ve ever owned or could afford. For $40 bucks I feel it was a steal!

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Re: Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano?

Post by JimBrown257 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:37 am

It's probably from the mid 60s. There is no real history of these things. People "remember" getting them before that but people memories aren't very reliable, especially when they are in the form of sales descriptions. They did start showing up in movies in the mid 60s so I would guess that is when they were first made.

Your's being a better one would make me believe it was an earlier one. It seems like the kind of product that would have started out better and gotten worse over time.

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Re: Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano?

Post by mykniveSSuck82 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:51 am

Wow thank you so much! Seems crazy to me that there isn’t an encyclopedia on these things out there somewhere! Am I right in thinking that all Rizzutos are from Japan or is it possible that some of these early ones might actually be Italian? Someone needs to Wikipedia these knives!! I’m just so glad someone knows something about these... you should consider writing a book. I’d buy it!

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Re: Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano?

Post by JimBrown257 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:36 am

Rizzutos were always Japanese. There are no Italian quality Rizzutos.

And the name "Rizzuto Estileto Milano" doesn't sound Italian. It sounds like an Asian company trying too hard to sound Italian. Like if something is called "Super all-American A+ John Wayne Yankees #1", it sounds like a Chinese company trying too hard to sound American.

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Re: Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano?

Post by mykniveSSuck82 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:21 am

yeah I kinda figured... I think if anything it sounds Spanish...
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Re: Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano?

Post by mykniveSSuck82 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:42 am

Anyways... is there any good info out there on how to do maintenance on these knives? My blade is peaking quite a bit when it’s closed up.... is there a simple fix or best to just leave it be? I’ve noticed that a lot of people’s rizzuto blade points seem to peak out when they’re locked up. I guess mine isn’t that bad but still... if there is some sort of simple fix I am all ears.

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Re: Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano?

Post by JayK » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:57 am

JimBrown257 wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:37 am
It's probably from the mid 60s. There is no real history of these things. People "remember" getting them before that but people memories aren't very reliable, especially when they are in the form of sales descriptions. They did start showing up in movies in the mid 60s so I would guess that is when they were first made.

Your's being a better one would make me believe it was an earlier one. It seems like the kind of product that would have started out better and gotten worse over time.
Maybe the wrong forum but if we are getting date estimates and country of origin guesses Id appreciate opinions from the local Rizzy experts on this one thanks in advance
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Re: Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano?

Post by Bill DeShivs » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:52 pm

Myknivessuck- so do your pictures!
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Re: Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano?

Post by sammy the blade » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:09 pm

Well, they are rizzutos.

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Re: Rizzuto Estileto but no Milano?

Post by whippersnapper » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:06 pm

Well they are old pictures from a year old post...lol

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