Hi everyone !
Greetings from south Brazil ! Rio Grande do Sul state.
I am new to this Blade Forum and I was hoping someone could help me out identifying the brand of this vintage (is it really vintage ?) carving set I bought from eBay USA. Refer to the link below:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144557365721?m ... nl%3Dmkcid
Any and all comments regarding brand, age, vintage status, quality, etc... are more than welcome !
Cheers guys
Bitta
Solinger Wertarbeit Carving Set ... legit ? what brand is this ?
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Re: Solinger Wertarbeit Carving Set ... legit ? what brand is this ?
I could not say. . . I am only guessing.
The tag says . . . . " SINCE 1874 "
This means the factory was started in the year 1874.
It does not mean the knife was made in 1874.
I think it has the appearance of something made in the 1950's
I looks like it says stainless on the engraving.. . . . and has enamel like a spanish knife.
Stainless did not exist in 1890's. . .at least not in a mass production item.
I've seen a lot of German knives that are engraved. .
WW2 daggers were not stainless. . . they were photo etched and blacked.
I can't recall one that has color in the engraving.
it says " GES GESCH " on the knife.
this is something like "patented . . or "Trademarked" . .
Someone else might know when this was common to be stamped on a knife.
The tag says . . . . " SINCE 1874 "
This means the factory was started in the year 1874.
It does not mean the knife was made in 1874.
I think it has the appearance of something made in the 1950's
I looks like it says stainless on the engraving.. . . . and has enamel like a spanish knife.
Stainless did not exist in 1890's. . .at least not in a mass production item.
I've seen a lot of German knives that are engraved. .
WW2 daggers were not stainless. . . they were photo etched and blacked.
I can't recall one that has color in the engraving.
it says " GES GESCH " on the knife.
this is something like "patented . . or "Trademarked" . .
Someone else might know when this was common to be stamped on a knife.
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Re: Solinger Wertarbeit Carving Set ... legit ? what brand is this ?
Tx for your reply and comments !
I learned the following from another blade forum:
" Not that old, perhaps 1930's - . But most likely post WWII. FK on the ticket = Friedrich von der Kohlen. They are a kitchen knifemaker now, and were still around as of a few years ago.
They might've subcontracted the work to another maker, as a lot of Solingen cutlers offered these sets, particularly post WWII - early 1980s. 1874 is when Friedrich von der Kohlen started in business, not the date of the set.
Here's a huge similar Post WWII set by Anton Wingen -
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ ... 1853343374 "
Cheers
Bitta
I learned the following from another blade forum:
" Not that old, perhaps 1930's - . But most likely post WWII. FK on the ticket = Friedrich von der Kohlen. They are a kitchen knifemaker now, and were still around as of a few years ago.
They might've subcontracted the work to another maker, as a lot of Solingen cutlers offered these sets, particularly post WWII - early 1980s. 1874 is when Friedrich von der Kohlen started in business, not the date of the set.
Here's a huge similar Post WWII set by Anton Wingen -
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ ... 1853343374 "
Cheers
Bitta
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Re: Solinger Wertarbeit Carving Set ... legit ? what brand is this ?
So.....
Solinger Wertarbeit means Solingen Quality Work
Ges Gesch is "gesetzlich geschützt". This literally translates to legally (by law) protected. Quite similar to patented but perhaps closer to trademarked. This marking came into use post WWII. Up until about 1945 the marking was D.R.G.M. which stood for Deutsches Reichsgebrauchsmuster (German Reich Utility Model).
My father purchased sets like these as gifts for three or four families when he was in Germany in the 1950's. I only remember seeing them around the holidays when they would be brought out and used. A number of years ago I acquired two, full sets from Anton Wingen (Othello) that are of the same vintage (1950/1960) but I have yet to use them.
Solinger Wertarbeit means Solingen Quality Work
Ges Gesch is "gesetzlich geschützt". This literally translates to legally (by law) protected. Quite similar to patented but perhaps closer to trademarked. This marking came into use post WWII. Up until about 1945 the marking was D.R.G.M. which stood for Deutsches Reichsgebrauchsmuster (German Reich Utility Model).
My father purchased sets like these as gifts for three or four families when he was in Germany in the 1950's. I only remember seeing them around the holidays when they would be brought out and used. A number of years ago I acquired two, full sets from Anton Wingen (Othello) that are of the same vintage (1950/1960) but I have yet to use them.
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