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Early Western Bowie

Postby kwackster » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:24 pm

One of my recent finds, an early Western Bowie from around 1965:

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Re: Early Western Bowie

Postby kwackster » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:24 pm

The knife as it looks at the moment.
Reground the already convex blade but now to a zero edge of about 30 degrees inclusive & contoured the handle.
Still have to work on the swedge & guard and restitch the sheath.

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Re: Early Western Bowie

Postby ILikeStilettos » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:15 pm

It's looking much better - nice piece.
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Re: Early Western Bowie

Postby TRYKER » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:23 pm

i got one i bought back in the 70's, $40 at k-mart, used to wear it 24/7 when i rode with a club.
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Re: Early Western Bowie

Postby sammy the blade » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:45 pm

Now that's a knife!
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Re: Early Western Bowie

Postby sammy the blade » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:30 pm

TRYKER wrote:i got one i bought back in the 70's, $40 at k-mart, used to wear it 24/7 when i rode with a club.


Who did you ride with?
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Re: Early Western Bowie

Postby kwackster » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:25 am

Since the brass guard was a bit loose, i'm experimenting to find out if shimming it with a few small pieces of brass sheet is a viable option.
While it works very well to immobilize the guard 100 % even during maximum force chopping (tested the knife again in the woods yesterday), the shims need to be a bit smaller to be totally invisible.

The 1095 Cro-Van blade steel also holds up well; after taking down several thin trees / thick saplings (think upper arm size) the edge can still shave the hair from my leg.
And this is with a 400 grit wet & dry SiC finish deburred with 1.0 micron diamond compound on MDF.

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Re: Early Western Bowie

Postby kwackster » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:05 am

Immobilized the guard with two narrow shards of brass sheet (one on each side), which were lightly tapped all the way to the tang using a small hammer & small section of a snap-off blade which i ground blunt & square.
The larger piece of brass sheet in the pictures is what was left after i used a pair of scissors to cut the two shards from, each one about a millimeter wide.
Also rounded the edges on the brass guard and polished it a bit.

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Re: Early Western Bowie

Postby kwackster » Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:02 pm

Yesterday i continued playing / testing / finetuning the knife somewhere in the Veluwe nature reserve.
About a week ago i thinned the blade just a bit more and the new apex now fits neatly in the 25 degrees slot of my Tormek WM200, and so far the knife seems to be able to handle that angle without any problem when chopping various kinds of mainly green wood.
No rippling and no catastrophic edge failures.
The only visible damage i could see afterwards when i got home where caused by the tiny sand particles which are omnipresent in and on practically all the wood in the reserve, and which cause those telltale minute dents in the apex.
Sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less, depending on how close the chopped wood was located near the sand dunes.

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But after about 10-15 minutes of stropping on a piece of MDF coated with 1.0 micron diamond compound & checking with my loupe all damage was gone and the apex was hairwhittling sharp again.
I intend to find out how often i can get away with just stropping the edge in this manner before i need to sharpen it again, which i do on a used sheet of 400 grit wet & dry on top of a big piece of fiber reinforced & semi-hard rubber conveyor belt.
On the wet & dry paper i use WD40 spray, which makes the silicon carbide grit cut more effectively, it keeps the swarf floating in suspension better than water, and it prohibits flash rust on the carbon steel.

Iirc the handle received 5 coats of IKEA cutting board oil, and after a long period of drying 1 more coat of Granger's wax to seal the wood.
Due to the contouring the handle now offers 3 hand positions:
- Exactly in the middle for a neutral grip (for general cutting)
- Against the integral pommel for maximum chopping power (for thick branches & smaller trees)
- Up front held loosely with your pointing finger in the cut-out for tip speed / snap cuts (for brambles, twigs, and thinner branches)

So far i have absolutely nothing to complain about this more than 50 year old knife, and it has already proven itself as an excellent chopper made in very well hardened steel.

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Re: Early Western Bowie

Postby dabron3 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:34 am

Nice find. It looks a lot better now.

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Re: Early Western Bowie

Postby TRYKER » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:39 pm

i used to practice throwing mine. at 18' i could have 2'' of the blade out the back of a 1 1/2'' piece of oak.
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Re: Early Western Bowie

Postby kwackster » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:02 pm

Found a twin brother of my own knife, also from the first generation (around 1965-1966) but in better overall condition.
The blade has seen less sharpenings over the years, only the apex was a bit blunt & damaged due to the use of a pull through device.
The guard has no play and the wooden grip panels also look good and have no gaps.
Reground the blade by hand to a full convex zero edge using 2 new sheets of 400 grit wet & dry and WD40 as a lubricant, then removed the small burr with 1.0 micron diamond compound on MDF.
No machine was used for this regrind.
The new apex fits in the 25 degrees inclusive slot of my Tormek WM200, just as the other one.
Currently busy cleaning up the swedge a bit with a couple of DMT Diafolds.
The handle & guard on this one will remain unmodified, for the new owner to decide upon.

The two knives together:

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