Down and dirty shivs & nasty toys

catavenger · Post by **catavenger** » Fri Aug 01, 2003 6:40 am

Any one besides me like to make them? If you take a piece of wide metal banding like the type used to go around a crate you can make fair shiv. Take two pieces about four inces long sharpen each end into a point and tape them in a cross + and it makes a nice cheap throwing star and the good part is if you lose it you are out nothing really.

Vagrant · Post by **Vagrant** » Fri Aug 01, 2003 8:27 am

You're not addicted until you start using better steel and learn to harden and temper it properly, make a better way of joining things, and make them more and more "upscale". If you start buying specialized equipment for this you are beyound hope.

ratstuph · Post by **ratstuph** » Fri Aug 01, 2003 5:07 pm

Vagrant wrote:You're not addicted until you start using better steel and learn to harden and temper it properly, make a better way of joining things, and make them more and more "upscale". If you start buying specialized equipment for this you are beyound hope.

Any luck with that 12-step program?
Rats...

Vagrant · Post by **Vagrant** » Fri Aug 01, 2003 5:25 pm

12 step programs only work if you do at least one step.

ratstuph · Post by **ratstuph** » Fri Aug 01, 2003 8:47 pm

Well I used to do the two-step. Pretty little gal down in OKC taught me how. She was sure sweet and fun. I don't remember experiencing any addictive behavior when I was dancing with her.

Rats...

Pushbutton · Post by **Pushbutton** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 12:38 am

This brings back memories. I got stuck in metal shop while all my buddies were in the capentry shop. The teachers thought if they kept me away it would cut down on the goofing. I wasn't in metal shop 10 minutes and had made this long pointed piece of steel with serrations the size of sharks teeth this was about 63 or 64 so you now have proof that Sal Glesser of SpyderCo ripped me off years later using my serrations. Anyways I made so mant pointy weapons it was a blast plus I was arming the school. Needless to say it didn't take them very long to trace the confiscated weapons back to metal shop and since teachers are both judge and jury they new it was me and I was escorted down to the boiler room by Mr O'Hara the gym teacher,Mr Macgaulif the wood working teacher and Mr Tosi The metal shop teacher. Well back in the early sixties things could happen that Johnny Cochran would get you a 25 million dollar settlement today. But all I got was the living shit beat out of me. Took about a week to get back to feeling normal and I was back in production

PB

catavenger · Post by **catavenger** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 7:36 am

Is there time limit for lawsuits? Either that or use the shiv on them?

mrbigg · Post by **mrbigg** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 8:40 am

i too was a metal shop headcase! our teacher had cokebottle glasses, and was a few too many years past retirement! we used to go back into the welding booth, crank the fan on, heat up some metal, and hotknife hash and oil during class! then we'd take 4 or 5 horseshoe nails and braise then together flat to make deadly flying stars...the shop cieling was littered with them! never made a knife though, made a hammer and lots of candlesticks (pot pipes)

man school was fun....

one time we got in shit cause we blew a hole in a cinderblock deviding wall (between metal shop and wood shop) there was a hole in the brick, so this buddy of mine thought it would be funny to fill it with some hydrogen...naturally when he lit it the thing exploded

no one was hurt, and it was only a small hole, but we could see through into the wood shop!!! thanks catavenger, this thread brings back memmories i'd forgotten!

catavenger · Post by **catavenger** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 7:44 pm

Sounds like you had lots more fun than I did!

HTMLBali · Post by **HTMLBali** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 7:58 am

Pushbutton got the shit beat out of him by teachers? man id bust out with a chair and kill em! lol

Pushbutton · Post by **Pushbutton** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 1:08 pm

HTMLBali
I appreciate your sentiments. You have to understand back in the early to mid 1960's it was so different then it is today. Taking the beating was the only way to avoid being expelled. If you hit back which at first you try then it was the same as hitting a cop today and you got it worse. Also keep in mind I was about 13 or 14 and the teachers were all grown men. Plus the gym teacher taught boxing. It really was a no win situation. but it was better then the stick. The stick was a common sadistic practice teachers used if you screwed up. Each teacher was given a pliable thin dowel about a foot and a half long he would then get another teacher to witness and help hold your hands out and then whipped your palms x amount of times depending on how serious the infraction and in public schools it was all perfectly legal and even encourged as a form of disipline. Afterr they finished with your hands they would have you write a 1000 times how you wouldn.t do it again. See the problem was 5 minutes after getting the stick your hands blew up to almost 3 times their normal size and turned purple your fingers were useless cause they wouldn't bend because of the swelling so trying to hold a pen and write was almost unbearable pain wise. But everytime you got the stick or a beating you also earned more respect from the other kids. They new if you came back unscathed you must have ratted someone else out. So in the end it happened so often and regularly to myself and my friends that it just seemed like a way of life in school since there were no laws protecting minors as we know them today. I remember one funny story after getting the stick once this kid who I didn't get along with decided that it would be the perfect day to jump me after school. Thinking back the kid must have been a retard or had a death wish. He figured since I couldn't close my hands to punch I would be helpless. Now it was common knowledge that I hung out with the greaser crowd who also happened to be the toughest kids in school you know pointed toed shoes,long leather jackets, Elvis DA's. So this fool starts in with I heard you were talking about my mother type shit and he's standing facing me. So I said without hesitation yeah I was talking about your mother and she said to give you something and I kicked him in the nuts as hard as I could. when he bent over holding his nuts I booted him right in the face.Then my good buddies decided my hands hurt to much so they took over. I didn't see that kid again for he stayed out of school and then transfered. So one thing that hasn't changed is their were still cowardly bullies back then ready to prey on the weaker . Man that kid was stupid

PB

the spotlight kid · Post by **the spotlight kid** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 2:21 pm

At my school the stick was given at morning assembly in front of the whole school.This one time they called out this kids name to come stand on the stage and recieve his punishment,he was 13 years old and hard.We used to call him 'Horse Face Harry' cause he was an ugly git,anyway,the headmaster and the English teacher reeled off his crimes and said'prepare yourself for 6 of the best' and this kid says'F*** you' and headbuts the headmaster and lays out the English teacher with one punch.Needless to say he got expelled,but it sure was fun seeing those jerks with 3 blackeyes between them for the next week!

Cheers the spotlight kid.

catavenger · Post by **catavenger** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 7:25 pm

I guess I am luck I cat napped through most of my school ! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Bonzo · Post by **Bonzo** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 9:22 pm

Mr. Spotlight Kid,

I take it the headmaster is what we would call the principle? What I remember most was that if I got the paddle at school, then I got the belt that night at home, and the time my 3rd grade teacher hit me with the yardstick got me kicked out of school for a week when I grabbed the stick and broke it in about 10 pieces. Several years ago, I was roofing the elementary school I attended back in the 60's. The same principal was still there. We reminissed about my prior behaviour as a child, and I asked him if he still had that big thick paddle. He said no, It got burned up when some kids firebombed his office, but the janitor chimed in that it still had my name on it! I can still recall signing the paddle and the principle putting a new 'X' on it everytime I got the swats. Anyway, he asked me if all those beatings ever taught me anything. I told him I should have had more.

Best Regard's,

Bonz

Greyblade · Post by **Greyblade** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 4:44 pm

Nightmares of nuns with rulers still cause me to wake up in a cold sweat and my knuckles to ache in cold, damp weather. If I lived in the UK, I'd be a cripple.

BTW, Spotlight, you're from Canterbury, correct? Super olde towne. Probably England's first pilgrim/tourist trap. Spent some time there a few years ago while on holiday/vacation with the wife and son. Also developed a taste for The Bishop's Finger

(calm down, guys - it's not what you're thinking), a fine Kentish ale.

Greyblade

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