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Post by Mors Profundis »

A final bit of information.
The kukuri guys know this, but many folks are never put wise to it.
You cannot sharpen the last inch of these knives(at the point), nor the section just above the notches, don't waste time trying.
The knife is only tempered in the belly(by dipping in an oil bath, usually), leaving the point, back and heel of the blade mild.
This allows a heck of a sharp on the hard portion, while the rest of the knife is soft and durable.
Kukuris are used as jungle knives, and for utility tasks(no, once drawn, they do not have to shed blood, that's the Rajputs, a sikh military order of monks)as well as for fighting.
Nepal is overgrown with hemp plants-yeah, ganja-and kukuris are often used to cut back the growth of the herb, so people can raise food.
This is why hippies used to flock to Katmandu-the stuff is not only legal, it's classified as a weed(indeed!), and cutting it is a civic duty.
After it's been cut, well, you gotta burn it to get rid of it.
Eat your hearts out, you vipers, they have bonfires of pot in Nepal.
(Some bluenoses find that Nepalling!).
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:shock:
Holysmokes mr.PROFUNDUS!

Youve got yer fieldknife shit together! 8) RIGHT-ON 8)
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no, once drawn, they do not have to shed blood,
Thank You
{I believe several groups do have this tradition but not in the case of the Khukuries, however few people have listened to me about it, glad to have the post}.
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:D not bad vagrant,not bad at all
Polish a knife, cook a pig, drink several beers
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Location:peach country
My Grandfather grew peaches here in N.H. [who says yankees are stubborn?]
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Vagrant wrote:Location:peach country
My Grandfather grew peaches here in N.H. [who says yankees are stubborn?]
They even grow peaches in Ontario :shock: :lol:
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Georgia has not got an exclusive I guess.
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:?: Wasnt it the JAPANESE SAMURI who decided that once
thier blade is drawn it has to shed blood before re-sheathing?
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DISTORTION wrote::?: Wasnt it the JAPANESE SAMURI who decided that once
thier blade is drawn it has to shed blood before re-sheathing?
I've heard lots of storys on various cultures believing this, but none had any real documentation. The best story [culture unknown but probably Arabic] was that the sword could not be resheathed without drawing blood of an EVIL person not just any person a bad one. This makes the most sense.
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DISTORTION wrote::?: Wasnt it the JAPANESE SAMURI who decided that once
thier blade is drawn it has to shed blood before re-sheathing?
this is not true in the slightest bit. usually they killed. but sometimes they just made a fool of their opponent.
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Post by Mors Profundis »

Most reliable information I have on that is that it was a custom of the Rajputs, Sikh warrior monks.
However, think of having to oil the blade, or sharpen it, all before the age of bandaids-doubtful indeed.
Rajputs were celibate, and perhaps the bloodletting was part of their religious rules.
It was once fairly common to find swords engraved with the motto"Draw me not without reason, sheathe me not without honor" in one of several languages.
The Rajputs were experts with the chakram, or war-quoit(of Zena fame), and carried several on the pointed cap they wound their turban around, handy for whizzing at foes, like evil frisbees.
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Post by DISTORTION »

Yeah,thats what i must have been thinking of,.....

"Draw me not without reason.................etc.

Didnt know its origins though.
:wink: Thanks again MR. PROFUNDUS! :wink:
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