Chinese? Italian? Worth fixing?

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Whodat
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Chinese? Italian? Worth fixing?

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Edited: brass liner, not copper

Hi All,

Picked this up recently and the safety is super loose, it keep sliding down. I’d like to fix it but only if it’s worth repairing.

I’d also love to know if this is an Italian or Chinese knockoff and approx date.
  • stamp says Italy over Stainless
    brass liner. Top bolster is not lined.
    Bolsters are magnetic
    No D-stamp. It’s a pinned liner for the release button
    Can’t tell if it’s a one or two-piece spring
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It's Italian. Repairing the safety properly requires disassembling the knife, and the safety will get loose again.
Try wrapping dental floss around the "stem" of the safety to increase resistance. When you cut it, you can use a lighter or match to remove frayed ends.
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It was made in Italy. It has brass liners and pins. If you plan to carry it, I recommend fixing the safety. If you don’t, it will open in you pocket. It looks like it could be a two piece spring but I really can’t tell if it’s a shadow or a reflection that I’m seeing.
To be fixed properly, the knife needs to be taken apart.
Check these two links out.

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Thanks for the insights.

Any ideas on possible maker or date? Paid $60 for this, not sure how much more I want to put into it to get it back to working order. The floss method may be in my future.
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My guess for the manufactured date would be no earlier than 1970 or 80s.
Try the dental floss what do you have to loose?
Maker: any of the Maniago cottage industry knife shops.
$60.00 good deal.
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Great to hear John. Thank you.

The floss worked to tighten up the safety, but it’s only “on” when pushed all the way up. One micrometer out of that position and the safety is off.

A repair is likely in its future :)
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Whodat wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:48 pm Great to hear John. Thank you.

The floss worked to tighten up the safety, but it’s only “on” when pushed all the way up. One micrometer out of that position and the safety is off.

A repair is likely in its future :)
Do you plan to repair it yourself?
If you hire someone to repair it for you it will mostly likely cost more than the knife, but don’t let that stop you from repairing it.
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No, definitely not by myself. Any guess on the value of the knife and a potential repair?
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What’s it’s worth?
Try a Google search for:
frank beltrame stiletto 23cm - 9 stiletto and see what pops up.
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You got a good deal on this one at $60. If the safety is the only thing wrong with it, I personally wouldn’t worry about it. When it comes to stilettos I make it a point not to carry my genuine Italian ones. Those strictly stay in my collection as I would probably have a breakdown if I lost one of them. LOL!
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Actually, it's an Armando Beltrame knife. Until he retired, he made all the 9" knives, and Frank made the 11' ones-and they supplied each other.
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