Frank Beltrame hole in the blade
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Re: Frank Beltrame hole in the blade
That through hole doesn't look round to me. Anyone else notice that?
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Re: Frank Beltrame hole in the blade
I’m guessing at their manufacturing process, maybe they’re drilling the pivot and sear holes through several stacked blades at the same time???
Sammy, it looks oval to me too. What’s up with that?? I hope it’s camera lens distortion.
Sammy, it looks oval to me too. What’s up with that?? I hope it’s camera lens distortion.
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Re: Frank Beltrame hole in the blade
Yes it is Oval
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dont look drilled at all looks like it was punched out to me
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Re: Frank Beltrame hole in the blade
I've not actually seen one but from looking at the pictures, I'm not a fan of the hole or the wider blade.
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Re: Frank Beltrame hole in the blade
I think I’ve seen a lot of Asian blades that looked like that.
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Re: Frank Beltrame hole in the blade
I’m only looking for the old style Frankies now. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but with the new blades with the hole all the way come from China!
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Re: Frank Beltrame hole in the blade
Sadly I must agree. In the past, some members of this forum have beaten the "hidden secret" drum that the Italians were using asian parts in their knives. These claims tended to be dismissed in large part because those particular members were argumentative, abusive and generally unpleasant thereby eventually getting banned. Not saying they should be welcomed back, but this issue of non-Italian parts does need further exploration as it affects collector interests.picklocksrock wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:50 pm I’m only looking for the old style Frankies now. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but with the new blades with the hole all the way come from China!
Re: Frank Beltrame hole in the blade
Might help dating them in the future... odd it would be oval either way.
Re: Frank Beltrame hole in the blade
The newer Frank B's are coming with and without the oval hole. I just got 3 current production knives within the last 6 months. An 11" and 8" in stag with swivel bolsters.... they are not drilled out. The third , a swing guard has the oval hole.
None of my new Frank B knives..... their construction, or the milling of the oval blade holes resembles anything coming out of China. I have plenty of those for comparison.
My only complaint with the current production Italians is not knowing which Italian maker is really producing them. I just got 4 knives from AGA Campolin and one doesn't look like it was made by the same producer. 3 are perfection and 1 is the odd man out ( sloppy build).
None of my new Frank B knives..... their construction, or the milling of the oval blade holes resembles anything coming out of China. I have plenty of those for comparison.
My only complaint with the current production Italians is not knowing which Italian maker is really producing them. I just got 4 knives from AGA Campolin and one doesn't look like it was made by the same producer. 3 are perfection and 1 is the odd man out ( sloppy build).
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this is speculation on my part, the oval hole will allow for miss placement by small tolerancies of the pin lining up so QC can be off a few thousands.
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Re: Frank Beltrame hole in the blade
I certainly don’t think any of the Frankies come from China! Frank Beltrame are my favorite switchblades and I’m just not a big fan of the different style blades. I own a newer one with the oval hole and the construction and lockup is good! I was just speculating about just the oval hole blades coming from China. But I have no proof of this and I’m certainly not trying to cause any disrespect to Frank B.JPD1998 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:11 pm The newer Frank B's are coming with and without the oval hole. I just got 3 current production knives within the last 6 months. An 11" and 8" in stag with swivel bolsters.... they are not drilled out. The third , a swing guard has the oval hole.
None of my new Frank B knives..... their construction, or the milling of the oval blade holes resembles anything coming out of China. I have plenty of those for comparison.
My only complaint with the current production Italians is not knowing which Italian maker is really producing them. I just got 4 knives from AGA Campolin and one doesn't look like it was made by the same producer. 3 are perfection and 1 is the odd man out ( sloppy build).
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Anymore just about everything comes from China, even that nasty virus.
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Re: Frank Beltrame hole in the blade
This is a long standing issue. Although there are fewer active makers of these knives nowadays due to the advanced age of many of them leading to retirement or worse, those that are still in business often offer knives they don't actually make. This is to expand their product lines hopefully making them a one-stop shop for wholesale sales. Part of the "Cottage Industry" and "Cooperation" business models followed in Maniago. Sadly, the tang stamp is not a wholly reliable indicator of the actual producer. Frustrating to be sure.JPD1998 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:11 pm ...My only complaint with the current production Italians is not knowing which Italian maker is really producing them. I just got 4 knives from AGA Campolin and one doesn't look like it was made by the same producer. 3 are perfection and 1 is the odd man out ( sloppy build).
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Re: Frank Beltrame hole in the blade
Could be new old stock from Frank... by the way since when does Frank make 8inch pieces?JPD1998 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:11 pm The newer Frank B's are coming with and without the oval hole. I just got 3 current production knives within the last 6 months. An 11" and 8" in stag with swivel bolsters.... they are not drilled out. The third , a swing guard has the oval hole.
None of my new Frank B knives..... their construction, or the milling of the oval blade holes resembles anything coming out of China. I have plenty of those for comparison.
My only complaint with the current production Italians is not knowing which Italian maker is really producing them. I just got 4 knives from AGA Campolin and one doesn't look like it was made by the same producer. 3 are perfection and 1 is the odd man out ( sloppy build).
Also, QC is a nightmare in Maniago (compared to the night terror that it was 20+ years ago) - I like to think that 3knives got its name because you'd best be buying 3 examples of something to get a specimen you wanna keep. But others are less cynical than I am. I just get rotten luck, apparently.
I think there can be a safe general consensus that all of the knives are assembled in Maniago, but some parts are universal and could just as easily be produced in china or the USA (springs in frank's B-Stealth can be found on knifekits.com)
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