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11" Stag Kris

Postby VOSGTC » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:21 pm

One more knife in the drawer that needs identified better. 11 inch, bolster release. Stag handle. Tang marked "STiLETTO (over) ITALY" The "i" is lower case, the rest is capitalized. No other markings that I can see. Brass liners.

Manufacturer?

Age?

Value?

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Re: 11" Stag Kris

Postby Luke_of_Mass » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:08 pm

I believe this is a modern stiletto produced by Renzo Beltrame - stiletto italy is the stamp he tends to use for most of his "production" runs - I put production in quotes since he really only produces custom orders for dealers, in contrast to Frank Beltrame who makes a mass run of something, then stocks and sells them himself.

Some of Renzo's custom Brazilian horn 'lettos are un-stamped, and I've never seen a knife with his actual name stamped on it.

This particular piece might fetch you a hunnert on a good day. As Renzo is probably the least famous of the Beltrames, it makes for a nice obscure piece for the display cabinet :)
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Re: 11" Stag Kris

Postby JimBrown257 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:01 am

It's a pretty cool modern Italian one. It can be tough to find real nice looking stag on the modern ones but that one looks pretty good.

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Re: 11" Stag Kris

Postby john » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:40 pm

Good looking Kris blade stiletto!!!
Is the “i” lower case or is it possible the stamp is a little bit worn? I can’t recall any Renzo Beltramre with a lower car “i”
Has any one else seen one?
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Re: 11" Stag Kris

Postby VOSGTC » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:57 pm

If it were a capital "I" it would have connected with the right top part of the "T". I have to use 30X glass to get good view. I do not have access to a macro lens to share the view.
Maybe later today, I can try for a cleared pic.

Looked again. The T & I seem to have a light strike, while the rest of the letters are full and well formed. The "I" could be capital, only struck on the lower portion of the letter. It is not worn, however. There is no wear on the area of the tang stamp.
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Re: 11" Stag Kris

Postby john » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:58 pm

I’m going to look at a few of my R Beltramre knives. I wonder if any of mine have the same stamp. I’m thinking the die he used may have been worn.
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Re: 11" Stag Kris

Postby Luke_of_Mass » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:20 pm

john wrote:I’m going to look at a few of my R Beltramre knives. I wonder if any of mine have the same stamp. I’m thinking the die he used may have been worn.


Almost all my Renzo Beltrame pieces have this same stamp. It is indeed getting warn as hell over the years lol. Here's one of his 'standard' dark horn bayos I happened to have laying on my desk:

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And the Stiletto Italy makes an appearance on his pearlex run, too - might be tough to see, but this photo wasn't taken with the stamp in mind:

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The only Renzo Beltrame knives I've got without this stamp are the customs Bernie sells which are not stamped at all. These don't tend to change hands much I think - I saw one of his un-stamped bayo's on SD last year but that's it. They get snapped up and hoarded, and with good reason; they're gorgeous and very unique for the age of standardized cutlery we live in today:

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My lackluster phone's camera really doesn't do the latter pieces justice, and reflection is a bit of an issue with them - the blades have a very fine mirror finish as opposed to the more beadwashed appearance you find on Frank's knives.

I'd love to see anyone else's Renzo Beltrame pieces! He is definitely one of the more obscure master cutlers in the Maniago scene...
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Re: 11" Stag Kris

Postby john » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:48 pm

Renzo Beltrame is WAY under rated. He doesn’t get the credit he deserves.
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Re: 11" Stag Kris

Postby VOSGTC » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:20 pm

FYI

The knife sold on ebay for $237.50 & 12 shipping.

Thanks for helping me ID the knife.
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